The Art of Influence and Persuasion with Davina Frederick of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer Podcast

By Jennifer B. Gardner

Episode 264

(released September 12, 2024)

What a pleasure it was to converse with talented conversationalist and trail-blazing coach for women lawyers, Davina Frederick.  Davina graciously invited me to appear on her show The Wealthy Woman Lawyer Podcast, and I enjoyed every minute of our conversation. 

In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I share insights from my journey as a lawyer and entrepreneur, including my transition from working in law firms to founding Gardner + Associates. I discuss how influence, persuasion, and storytelling have played a significant role in my legal career and my passion for teaching these skills to others.

I also cover my transition from full time lawyering to teaching leadership skills, the neuroscience of persuasion and influence, the importance of emotional intelligence and storytelling in building a successful law practice, and tips for managing courtroom anxiety and improving public speaking skills.

Throughout the episode, I highlight my approach to influence and leadership skills, explaining how they can help lawyers not only win cases, but also build strong relationships with clients, colleagues and even adversaries. 

I also discuss the importance of nonviolent communication and authentic self-expression in both professional and personal relationships.

Finally, I emphasize the benefits of learning “soft skills” not typically taught in traditional law schools or legal continuing education courses.